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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Bay Area thrash1983

Second genre

Teutonic thrash1984

Head to headBay Area thrash vs Teutonic thrash
Bay Area thrash: heaviness 8, melody 7, speed 9. Teutonic thrash: heaviness 9, melody 4, speed 9.Heaviness8 / 9Melody7 / 4Speed9 / 9
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

The German scene is filthier, faster and less interested in melody or production. The two waves developed in parallel and sound obviously different.

Both are shouted and move at much the same pace, around 180 to 260 bpm. To hear the difference, play Metallica next to Kreator. Both grew out of thrash metal, Bay Area thrash first and Teutonic thrash a year after.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Bay Area thrash8
Teutonic thrash9
+1
Speed
Bay Area thrash9
Teutonic thrash9
level
Melody
Bay Area thrash7
Teutonic thrash4
−3

Bay Area thrash

1983 · San Francisco, USA

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Thrash metal › Bay Area thrash

In short

The original epicentre: technical riffing, clearer production and a little more melody.

How it sounds

  • Technical riffing and elaborate structures with many sectional changes.
  • Clearer production than the German variant, with audible bass.
  • Barked vocals that turn melodic in places, with singalong choruses.

Key acts

  • Metallica
  • Exodus
  • Testament
  • Death Angel

Start here

The pickExodus - Bonded by Blood. Recorded in 1984, released late, and it held up anyway.

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Teutonic thrash

1984 · Germany

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Thrash metal › Teutonic thrash

In short

The German version: dirtier, faster and much closer to what would become death and black metal.

How it sounds

  • Dirtier production with sharper guitars and distorted bass.
  • Vocals closer to a snarl than a shout - a direct step toward death metal.
  • More constant and more brutal tempos, with fewer melodic passages.

Key acts

  • Kreator
  • Sodom
  • Destruction
  • Tankard

Start here

The pickKreator - Pleasure to Kill. The point where thrash becomes death metal without announcing it.

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