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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Blackgaze / post-black2007

Second genre

Post-metal / atmospheric sludge1997

Head to headBlackgaze / post-black vs Post-metal / atmospheric sludge
Blackgaze / post-black: heaviness 7, melody 9, speed 7. Post-metal / atmospheric sludge: heaviness 8, melody 7, speed 3.Heaviness7 / 8Melody9 / 7Speed7 / 3
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Both build to consonant peaks over long forms. Post-metal comes from sludge and screams; this comes from black metal and shrieks.

Post-metal / atmospheric sludge is part sung, part screamed where blackgaze / post-black is growled or screamed, and much slower: 60 to 120 bpm against 120 to 200. To hear the difference, play Alcest next to Neurosis. They share a root in heavy metal, and post-metal / atmospheric sludge came first, by ten years. United States appears in the origins of both.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Blackgaze / post-black7
Post-metal / atmospheric sludge8
+1
Speed
Blackgaze / post-black7
Post-metal / atmospheric sludge3
−4
Melody
Blackgaze / post-black9
Post-metal / atmospheric sludge7
−2

Blackgaze / post-black

2007 · France / USA

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Black metal › Blackgaze / post-black

In short

Black metal tremolo over shoegaze harmony: the same density, but the result comes out luminous instead of frozen.

How it sounds

  • Black metal tremolo picking over major or modal, luminous harmony.
  • Walls of guitar with reverb and delay, in the shoegaze tradition.
  • Screamed vocals mixed under the instruments, as texture.

Key acts

  • Alcest
  • Deafheaven
  • Lantlôs

Start here

The pickDeafheaven - Sunbather. It opens with nine minutes that justify the whole genre.

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Post-metal / atmospheric sludge

1997 · USA

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Doom metal › Sludge metal › Post-metal / atmospheric sludge

In short

Sludge with post-rock logic: long songs, crescendos and instrumental passages. Neurosis invented the form.

How it sounds

  • Eight- to fifteen-minute pieces with long crescendos in post-rock logic.
  • Delay and reverb guitars for the quiet passages, massive distortion at the peaks.
  • Vocals used sparingly, as an accent, often howled from a distance.

Key acts

  • Neurosis
  • Isis
  • Cult of Luna
  • Russian Circles

Start here

The pickIsis - Oceanic. The most accessible album in the genre, and no weaker for it.

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