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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Crossover thrash1984

Second genre

Thrash metal1983

Head to headCrossover thrash vs Thrash metal
Crossover thrash: heaviness 7, melody 5, speed 9. Thrash metal: heaviness 8, melody 6, speed 9.Heaviness7 / 8Melody5 / 6Speed9 / 9
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Crossover is hardcore played by people who learned thrash riffs. The tell is length - crossover is usually done inside two minutes and thrash takes five.

Both are shouted and move at much the same pace, around 180 to 250 bpm. Songs run longer in thrash metal: usually 4 to 6½ minutes, against 1 to 2½ minutes in crossover thrash. To hear the difference, play D.R.I. next to Metallica. Crossover thrash comes from the rock side of the tree and thrash metal from the metal side, and thrash metal came first, by a year.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Crossover thrash7
Thrash metal8
+1
Speed
Crossover thrash9
Thrash metal9
level
Melody
Crossover thrash5
Thrash metal6
+1

Crossover thrash

1984 · USA

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Hardcore punk › Crossover thrash

In short

The exact point where hardcore and thrash metal merge: metal riffs, skate-park attitude, mandatory circle pit.

How it sounds

  • Thrash metal riffing inside hardcore structures and song lengths.
  • Fast tempos with transitions into syncopated mosh parts.
  • Lyrics that are often satirical or about the scene itself.

Key acts

  • D.R.I.
  • Suicidal Tendencies
  • Municipal Waste
  • S.O.D.

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The pickSuicidal Tendencies - Institutionalized. The best song ever written about parents not listening.

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Thrash metal

1983 · California / Germany · 4 subgenres

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Thrash metal

In short

NWOBHM plus hardcore punk: palm-muted riffs, brutal tempos and lyrics about war and society. The first truly extreme branch.

How it sounds

  • Palm-muted riffs in sixteenths, played with relentless downpicking.
  • Tempos of 180 to 250 bpm with skank beats and double kick.
  • Barked or shouted but still intelligible vocals, and fast aggressive solos.

Key acts

  • Metallica
  • Slayer
  • Megadeth
  • Kreator

Start here

The pickSlayer - Reign in Blood. Twenty-nine minutes that redefined the word extreme.

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