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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Cybergrind1999

Second genre

Mathcore1993

Head to headCybergrind vs Mathcore
Cybergrind: heaviness 9, melody 2, speed 10. Mathcore: heaviness 8, melody 3, speed 9.Heaviness9 / 8Melody2 / 3Speed10 / 9
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Both are chaotic and technical. Mathcore is drilled by people; cybergrind is programmed, and the difference is audible immediately.

Both are growled or screamed, but mathcore is much slower: 140 to 260 bpm against 250 to 400. Songs run longer in mathcore: usually 1½ to 4 minutes, against under a minute to 2 minutes in cybergrind. To hear the difference, play Agoraphobic Nosebleed next to The Dillinger Escape Plan. Cybergrind comes from the metal side of the tree and mathcore from the rock side, and mathcore came first, by six years.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Cybergrind9
Mathcore8
−1
Speed
Cybergrind10
Mathcore9
−1
Melody
Cybergrind2
Mathcore3
+1

Cybergrind

1999 · Global

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Grindcore › Cybergrind

In short

Grindcore with programmed drums nobody could play and electronic elements. Made in bedrooms more often than in studios.

How it sounds

  • Drums programmed at physically impossible speeds, often past a nominal 1000 bpm.
  • Electronic elements: noise, synthesizers, samples.
  • Fully digital production, frequently made by one person alone.

Key acts

  • Agoraphobic Nosebleed
  • The Berzerker
  • Genghis Tron

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The pickGridlink - Longhena. Twenty-two minutes, and it counts as a long album here.

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Mathcore

1993 · USA

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Hardcore punk › Post-hardcore › Mathcore

In short

Metalcore with its wiring torn out: meter changes every few seconds, dissonance and chaos controlled to the millimetre.

How it sounds

  • Meter changes every few seconds, executed at maximum speed.
  • Dissonant chords and minor-second intervals used as primary material.
  • Jazz-level drum technique applied at grindcore intensity.

Key acts

  • The Dillinger Escape Plan
  • Converge
  • Botch
  • Car Bomb

Start here

The pickConverge - Jane Doe. Technically mathcore, emotionally something else entirely.

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