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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Dream pop1985

Second genre

Gothic rock1979

Head to headDream pop vs Gothic rock
Dream pop: heaviness 2, melody 10, speed 3. Gothic rock: heaviness 4, melody 8, speed 4.Heaviness2 / 4Melody10 / 8Speed3 / 4
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

The Cocteau Twins were on 4AD alongside goth bands and share the reverb and the chorus pedal - pointed at beauty rather than at dread.

Both are sung cleanly, but gothic rock is a little faster: 90 to 130 bpm against 70 to 110. To hear the difference, play Cocteau Twins next to Bauhaus. They share a root in rock, and gothic rock came first, by six years. United Kingdom appears in the origins of both.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Dream pop2
Gothic rock4
+2
Speed
Dream pop3
Gothic rock4
+1
Melody
Dream pop10
Gothic rock8
−2

Dream pop

1985 · United Kingdom

Where it sits

Rock › Alternative rock › Shoegaze › Dream pop

In short

The same reverb haze, but with the melody left on the surface and the tempo slower.

How it sounds

  • Long reverb and delay, with guitars treated like synthesizers.
  • Slow tempos and a discreet rhythm section, often a drum machine.
  • Ethereal vocals, sometimes with no intelligible words at all.

Key acts

  • Cocteau Twins
  • Mazzy Star
  • Beach House

Start here

The pickCocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas. You won't follow the words, and it doesn't matter.

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Gothic rock

1979 · United Kingdom · 1 subgenre

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Post-punk › Gothic rock

In short

Post-punk with reverb, chorused guitar and a baritone voice. Its aesthetic passes straight into gothic metal and doom.

How it sounds

  • Guitar with chorus and flanger, thin and cold, drenched in reverb.
  • Melodic bass up front; some bands use a drum machine instead of a drummer.
  • Baritone vocals, often declaimed, with literary and funereal lyrics.

Key acts

  • Bauhaus
  • The Sisters of Mercy
  • The Cure
  • Fields of the Nephilim

Start here

The pickBauhaus - Bela Lugosi's Dead. Nine minutes that founded an entire subculture.

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