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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Dream pop1985

Second genre

Shoegaze1989

Head to headDream pop vs Shoegaze
Dream pop: heaviness 2, melody 10, speed 3. Shoegaze: heaviness 4, melody 8, speed 4.Heaviness2 / 4Melody10 / 8Speed3 / 4
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Dream pop is this with the volume and distortion down - the same reverb and buried voice, without the wall. If it is beautiful and quiet, it is dream pop.

Both are sung cleanly, but shoegaze is a little faster: 100 to 140 bpm against 70 to 110. To hear the difference, play Cocteau Twins next to My Bloody Valentine. Dream pop grew out of shoegaze. United Kingdom appears in the origins of both.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Dream pop2
Shoegaze4
+2
Speed
Dream pop3
Shoegaze4
+1
Melody
Dream pop10
Shoegaze8
−2

Dream pop

1985 · United Kingdom

Where it sits

Rock › Alternative rock › Shoegaze › Dream pop

In short

The same reverb haze, but with the melody left on the surface and the tempo slower.

How it sounds

  • Long reverb and delay, with guitars treated like synthesizers.
  • Slow tempos and a discreet rhythm section, often a drum machine.
  • Ethereal vocals, sometimes with no intelligible words at all.

Key acts

  • Cocteau Twins
  • Mazzy Star
  • Beach House

Start here

The pickCocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas. You won't follow the words, and it doesn't matter.

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Shoegaze

1989 · United Kingdom · 1 subgenre

Where it sits

Rock › Alternative rock › Shoegaze

In short

Walls of cascading guitar effects with the vocals buried in the mix. Named after the habit of staring at the pedalboard on stage.

How it sounds

  • Dozens of stacked guitar tracks through long chains of pedals.
  • Kevin Shields' 'glide guitar' - the tremolo arm used continuously, so the tuning never settles.
  • Vocals mixed level with the instruments, as another texture.

Key acts

  • My Bloody Valentine
  • Slowdive
  • Ride
  • Lush

Start here

The pickMy Bloody Valentine - Loveless. Nobody has yet reproduced the sound exactly.

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