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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Hardcore punk1980

Second genre

Powerviolence1987

Head to headHardcore punk vs Powerviolence
Hardcore punk: heaviness 6, melody 4, speed 9. Powerviolence: heaviness 8, melody 2, speed 10.Heaviness6 / 8Melody4 / 2Speed9 / 10
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Power violence takes hardcore's speed past what a song structure can hold: thirty seconds, whiplash tempo changes, no groove at all.

Powerviolence is growled or screamed where hardcore punk is shouted, and swings further either way: 60 to 320 bpm against 190 to 250. To hear the difference, play Black Flag next to Infest. Powerviolence grew out of hardcore punk, seven years later. California appears in the origins of both.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Hardcore punk6
Powerviolence8
+2
Speed
Hardcore punk9
Powerviolence10
+1
Melody
Hardcore punk4
Powerviolence2
−2

Hardcore punk

1980 · California / Washington DC · 13 subgenres

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Hardcore punk

In short

Punk accelerated to 200 bpm, songs of one minute and shouted vocals. Without it there is no thrash, no grindcore, no metalcore.

How it sounds

  • Tempos of 180 to 250 bpm with galloping or skank drum patterns.
  • Songs under a minute, with whole albums running twenty minutes.
  • Shouted rather than sung vocals, and direct political or personal lyrics.

Key acts

  • Black Flag
  • Minor Threat
  • Bad Brains
  • Discharge

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The pickBad Brains - Bad Brains (the ROIR cassette). The fastest band of the decade.

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Powerviolence

1987 · California, USA

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Hardcore punk › Powerviolence

In short

Hardcore taken to the limit: abrupt tempo shifts, twenty-second songs, blast beats cut with parts as slow as tar.

How it sounds

  • Abrupt switches between blast beats and slow passages, with no transition.
  • Songs of ten to forty seconds, albums with twenty-five tracks.
  • Deliberately ugly sound, with distorted vocals and clipping bass.

Key acts

  • Infest
  • Man Is the Bastard
  • Spazz

Start here

The pickInfest - Slave. Twenty minutes that feel longer than a doom album.

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