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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Indie rock1985

Second genre

Indie pop / twee1986

Head to headIndie rock vs Indie pop / twee
Indie rock: heaviness 3, melody 8, speed 5. Indie pop / twee: heaviness 1, melody 10, speed 3.Heaviness3 / 1Melody8 / 10Speed5 / 3
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Indie pop keeps the jangle and drops the ambivalence - sweeter, faster, and unembarrassed about writing a hook.

Both are sung cleanly, but indie pop / twee is a little faster: 120 to 160 bpm against 100 to 140. To hear the difference, play Pavement next to Belle and Sebastian. Indie pop / twee grew out of indie rock, a year later. United Kingdom appears in the origins of both.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Indie rock3
Indie pop / twee1
−2
Speed
Indie rock5
Indie pop / twee3
−2
Melody
Indie rock8
Indie pop / twee10
+2

Indie rock

1985 · USA / United Kingdom · 2 subgenres

Where it sits

Rock › Alternative rock › Indie rock

In short

Originally an economic description - independent labels - that hardened into an aesthetic: modest production and total freedom.

How it sounds

  • Modest production, with a small budget treated as an aesthetic choice.
  • Clean or lightly saturated guitars; solos are rare.
  • Untrained, natural vocals, often deliberately vulnerable.

Key acts

  • Pavement
  • Sonic Youth
  • Arcade Fire
  • The National

Start here

The pickPavement - Slanted and Enchanted. Studied indifference, excellent songs.

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Indie pop / twee

1986 · United Kingdom

Where it sits

Rock › Alternative rock › Indie rock › Indie pop / twee

In short

Sweet melodies, shy vocals, clean guitars. The gentle reaction to rock machismo.

How it sounds

  • Sweet melodies with major progressions and simple arrangements.
  • Clean guitar, sometimes with glockenspiel, trumpet or discreet strings.
  • Shy, thin vocals sung without any effort to impress.

Key acts

  • Belle and Sebastian
  • The Field Mice
  • Camera Obscura

Start here

The pickBelle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister. Recorded in three days on a student budget.

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