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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Math rock1988

Second genre

Progressive rock1968

Head to headMath rock vs Progressive rock
Math rock: heaviness 3, melody 6, speed 6. Progressive rock: heaviness 4, melody 7, speed 5.Heaviness3 / 4Melody6 / 7Speed6 / 5
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Prog uses odd metres inside long romantic forms with keyboards and virtuoso solos. Math rock keeps them in short, dry, guitar-only pieces.

Progressive rock is sung cleanly where math rock is mostly instrumental, and swings further either way: 60 to 180 bpm against 100 to 160. Songs run longer in progressive rock: usually 6 to 20 minutes, against 4 to 8 minutes in math rock. To hear the difference, play Slint next to King Crimson. Math rock grew out of progressive rock, twenty years later.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Math rock3
Progressive rock4
+1
Speed
Math rock6
Progressive rock5
−1
Melody
Math rock6
Progressive rock7
+1

Math rock

1988 · USA / Japan

Where it sits

Rock › Progressive rock › Math rock

In short

Odd meters and interlocking riffs assembled like a puzzle, usually without vocals. Post-rock's cerebral cousin.

How it sounds

  • Frequently changing odd meters, often with two guitars in different metres at once.
  • Clean or lightly overdriven guitars in alternate tunings, with tapping and harmonics.
  • Usually instrumental; where there are vocals, they are spoken or whispered.

Key acts

  • Slint
  • Don Caballero
  • Battles
  • Toe

Start here

The pickSlint - Spiderland. Six songs that changed independent rock.

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Progressive rock

1968 · United Kingdom · 6 subgenres

Where it sits

Rock › Progressive rock

In short

Rock with classical ambitions: odd meters, twenty-minute suites, mellotron. The direct foundation of progressive metal.

How it sounds

  • Odd meters - 7/8, 5/4, 13/8 - used routinely rather than as an effect.
  • Mellotron, Hammond organ, Moog and later polyphonic synthesizers.
  • Long suites, concept albums, sometimes a single piece per side of vinyl.

Key acts

  • King Crimson
  • Yes
  • Genesis
  • Rush

Start here

The pickKing Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King. The first track tells you everything.

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