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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Melodic hardcore1985

Second genre

Youth crew / straight edge1986

Head to headMelodic hardcore vs Youth crew / straight edge
Melodic hardcore: heaviness 5, melody 7, speed 8. Youth crew / straight edge: heaviness 5, melody 5, speed 8.Heaviness5 / 5Melody7 / 5Speed8 / 8
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Youth crew is the same era and scene with a stricter ideology and less melody - the mosh part rather than the chorus.

Both are shouted and move at much the same pace, around 170 to 220 bpm. To hear the difference, play Dag Nasty next to Youth of Today. Both grew out of hardcore punk, melodic hardcore first and youth crew / straight edge a year after.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Melodic hardcore5
Youth crew / straight edge5
level
Speed
Melodic hardcore8
Youth crew / straight edge8
level
Melody
Melodic hardcore7
Youth crew / straight edge5
−2

Melodic hardcore

1985 · USA

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Hardcore punk › Melodic hardcore

In short

Same speed and urgency, but with sung choruses and guitar harmonies.

How it sounds

  • Hardcore speed with major-key harmonic progressions.
  • Two-part guitar harmonies and sung choruses.
  • More personal or reflective political lyrics rather than pure slogans.

Key acts

  • Dag Nasty
  • Strike Anywhere
  • Comeback Kid

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The pickKid Dynamite - Kid Dynamite. Seventeen songs, twenty-four minutes, zero fat.

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Youth crew / straight edge

1986 · New York, USA

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Hardcore punk › Youth crew / straight edge

In short

Hardcore with a code: no alcohol, no drugs, gang vocals and breakdowns. The ethics of the scene became the subject of the songs.

How it sounds

  • Gang vocals - the chorus shouted by the whole band and the audience at once.
  • A breakdown at the midpoint, with the tempo halved, made for dancing.
  • Simple riffs, with the emphasis on energy and message.

Key acts

  • Youth of Today
  • Gorilla Biscuits
  • Minor Threat

Start here

The pickGorilla Biscuits - Start Today. Optimistic hardcore, which is rarer than it sounds.

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