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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Mincecore1990

Second genre

Grindcore1985

Head to headMincecore vs Grindcore
Mincecore: heaviness 8, melody 1, speed 9. Grindcore: heaviness 9, melody 1, speed 10.Heaviness8 / 9Melody1 / 1Speed9 / 10
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Mincecore is grindcore's most explicitly political and least musically ambitious wing, and Agathocles have been making it continuously since 1985.

Both are growled or screamed and move at much the same pace, around 200 to 320 bpm. To hear the difference, play Agathocles next to Napalm Death. Mincecore grew out of grindcore, five years later.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Mincecore8
Grindcore9
+1
Speed
Mincecore9
Grindcore10
+1
Melody
Mincecore1
Grindcore1
level

Mincecore

1990 · Belgium

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Grindcore › Mincecore

In short

Deliberately primitive grindcore with blunt political messages and thousands of appearances on split releases.

How it sounds

  • Deliberately primitive production, often recorded straight to cassette.
  • Songs under a minute with simple, accelerated punk riffs.
  • Blunt political lyrics printed in full, with an anti-militarist message.

Key acts

  • Agathocles
  • Archagathus

Start here

The pickAgathocles - Theatric Symbolisation of Life. The most accessible way in.

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Grindcore

1985 · Birmingham, England · 3 subgenres

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Grindcore

In short

Hardcore and death metal compressed into songs under a minute, with continuous blast beats. Napalm Death have a song that lasts one second.

How it sounds

  • Blast beats at maximum speed, songs under a minute, albums of twenty minutes.
  • Short hardcore and death metal riffs with no development.
  • Dual vocals: guttural growl and high shriek, alternating rapidly.

Key acts

  • Napalm Death
  • Repulsion
  • Terrorizer
  • Brutal Truth

Start here

The pickNapalm Death - Scum. Side B, with Bill Steer on guitar, is the essential half.

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