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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

New wave1978

Second genre

Pop punk1977

Head to headNew wave vs Pop punk
New wave: heaviness 2, melody 10, speed 5. Pop punk: heaviness 3, melody 10, speed 7.Heaviness2 / 3Melody10 / 10Speed5 / 7
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

A later genre chasing the same combination of speed, brightness and an enormous chorus, from the hardcore side rather than the art-school one.

Both are sung cleanly, but pop punk is faster: 160 to 200 bpm against 120 to 160. To hear the difference, play Talking Heads next to Ramones. They share a root in punk rock, and pop punk came first, by a year. United States appears in the origins of both.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
New wave2
Pop punk3
+1
Speed
New wave5
Pop punk7
+2
Melody
New wave10
Pop punk10
level

New wave

1978 · UK / USA

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Post-punk › New wave

In short

Post-punk's commercial face: synthesizers, hooks and jerky rhythms. Punk without the rage, but with the same ideas.

How it sounds

  • Polyphonic synthesizers and drum machines alongside rock instruments.
  • Jerky, staccato rhythms, often with funk or reggae influence.
  • Clean production, radio-ready choruses and strong visuals for MTV.

Key acts

  • Talking Heads
  • Blondie
  • The Cars
  • Devo

Start here

The pickBlondie - Parallel Lines. Perfect pop with a CBGB past.

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Pop punk

1977 · USA · 2 subgenres

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Pop punk

In short

Punk speed, garage-pop choruses and lyrics about suburban boredom.

How it sounds

  • Simple major progressions - I-V-vi-IV - played fast and distorted.
  • Choruses with vocal harmonies and singalong 'whoa-oh' hooks.
  • Clean production, compressed drums, tempos of 160 to 200 bpm.

Key acts

  • Ramones
  • Green Day
  • blink-182
  • The Offspring

Start here

The pickThe Descendents - Milo Goes to College. The manual, written twelve years before the boom.

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