Rockpedia

Compare

Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Proto-punk1967

Second genre

Noise rock1983

Head to headProto-punk vs Noise rock
Proto-punk: heaviness 5, melody 5, speed 7. Noise rock: heaviness 7, melody 3, speed 6.Heaviness5 / 7Melody5 / 3Speed7 / 6
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Noise rock inherits the Velvets' side of this directly - dissonance, drone and volume used to abrade.

Noise rock is shouted where proto-punk is sung cleanly, and slower: 90 to 150 bpm against 140 to 180. To hear the difference, play The Stooges next to Sonic Youth. They share a root in rock, and proto-punk came first, by sixteen years.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Proto-punk5
Noise rock7
+2
Speed
Proto-punk7
Noise rock6
−1
Melody
Proto-punk5
Noise rock3
−2

Proto-punk

1967 · Detroit / New York, USA

Where it sits

Rock › Rock and roll › Garage rock › Proto-punk

In short

Garage rock turned hostile and repetitive, with noise and nihilism. Nobody called it punk yet, but everyone at CBGB copied from it.

How it sounds

  • A repetitive, near-hypnotic riff held without development - the opposite of blues rock soloing.
  • Spoken or shouted vocals delivered with calculated contempt.
  • Noise, feedback and lyrics about boredom, drugs and urban alienation.

Key acts

  • The Stooges
  • MC5
  • The Velvet Underground
  • New York Dolls

Start here

The pickThe Stooges - Fun House. The sound of a band self-destructing in real time.

Full page →

Noise rock

1983 · USA

Where it sits

Rock › Alternative rock › Noise rock

In short

Alternate tunings, feedback as an instrument and rhythm sections that hit like machinery. The grandfather of sludge.

How it sounds

  • Alternate tunings, often invented for a single song.
  • Feedback and harmonics treated as musical material rather than accidents.
  • A heavy, near-mechanical rhythm section with distorted bass up front.

Key acts

  • Sonic Youth
  • Big Black
  • The Jesus Lizard
  • Melvins

Start here

The pickThe Jesus Lizard - Goat. The rhythm section sounds like heavy plant in operation.

Full page →