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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Avant-prog / RIO1978

Second genre

Progressive rock1968

Head to headAvant-prog / RIO vs Progressive rock
Avant-prog / RIO: heaviness 3, melody 3, speed 5. Progressive rock: heaviness 4, melody 7, speed 5.Heaviness3 / 4Melody3 / 7Speed5 / 5
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Rock in Opposition began as an explicit alliance against prog's commercialisation, and its music is far more dissonant and less romantic.

Both are sung cleanly and move at much the same pace, around 60 to 180 bpm. Songs run longer in progressive rock: usually 6 to 20 minutes, against 4 to 12 minutes in Avant-prog / RIO. To hear the difference, play Henry Cow next to King Crimson. Avant-prog / RIO grew out of progressive rock, ten years later.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Avant-prog / RIO3
Progressive rock4
+1
Speed
Avant-prog / RIO5
Progressive rock5
level
Melody
Avant-prog / RIO3
Progressive rock7
+4

Avant-prog / RIO

1978 · Europe

Where it sits

Rock › Progressive rock › Avant-prog / RIO

In short

Rock in Opposition: dissonance, chamber music and left-wing politics. Prog that refuses on principle to be pleasant.

How it sounds

  • Systematic dissonance and harmony drawn from twentieth-century chamber music.
  • Unusual acoustic instruments - bassoon, violin, harmonium - alongside rock.
  • Rigorously composed structures, without improvisation or melodic concessions.

Key acts

  • Henry Cow
  • Univers Zero
  • Art Bears

Start here

The pickUnivers Zero - Heresie. Closer to Bartók than to rock.

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Progressive rock

1968 · United Kingdom · 6 subgenres

Where it sits

Rock › Progressive rock

In short

Rock with classical ambitions: odd meters, twenty-minute suites, mellotron. The direct foundation of progressive metal.

How it sounds

  • Odd meters - 7/8, 5/4, 13/8 - used routinely rather than as an effect.
  • Mellotron, Hammond organ, Moog and later polyphonic synthesizers.
  • Long suites, concept albums, sometimes a single piece per side of vinyl.

Key acts

  • King Crimson
  • Yes
  • Genesis
  • Rush

Start here

The pickKing Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King. The first track tells you everything.

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