The difference, by ear
Youth crew is hardcore's late-1980s straight-edge wave, with a stated ideology, a uniform and a much stronger emphasis on the mosh part.
Both are shouted, but hardcore punk is a little faster: 190 to 250 bpm against 170 to 210. To hear the difference, play Youth of Today next to Black Flag. Youth crew / straight edge grew out of hardcore punk, six years later.
In figures
Youth crew / straight edge
Where it sits
Rock › Punk rock › Hardcore punk › Youth crew / straight edge
In short
Hardcore with a code: no alcohol, no drugs, gang vocals and breakdowns. The ethics of the scene became the subject of the songs.
How it sounds
- Gang vocals - the chorus shouted by the whole band and the audience at once.
- A breakdown at the midpoint, with the tempo halved, made for dancing.
- Simple riffs, with the emphasis on energy and message.
Key acts
- Youth of Today
- Gorilla Biscuits
- Minor Threat
Start here
The pickGorilla Biscuits - Start Today. Optimistic hardcore, which is rarer than it sounds.
Full page →Hardcore punk
Where it sits
Rock › Punk rock › Hardcore punk
In short
Punk accelerated to 200 bpm, songs of one minute and shouted vocals. Without it there is no thrash, no grindcore, no metalcore.
How it sounds
- Tempos of 180 to 250 bpm with galloping or skank drum patterns.
- Songs under a minute, with whole albums running twenty minutes.
- Shouted rather than sung vocals, and direct political or personal lyrics.
Key acts
- Black Flag
- Minor Threat
- Bad Brains
- Discharge
Start here
The pickBad Brains - Bad Brains (the ROIR cassette). The fastest band of the decade.
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