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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Crossover thrash1984

Second genre

Black metal1982

Head to headCrossover thrash vs Black metal
Crossover thrash: heaviness 7, melody 5, speed 9. Black metal: heaviness 9, melody 4, speed 9.Heaviness7 / 9Melody5 / 4Speed9 / 9
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Black metal is growled or screamed where crossover thrash is shouted, and swings further either way: 160 to 280 bpm against 180 to 240. Songs run longer in black metal: usually 4 to 9 minutes, against 1 to 2½ minutes in crossover thrash. To hear the difference, play D.R.I. next to Bathory. Crossover thrash comes from the rock side of the tree and black metal from the metal side, and black metal came first, by two years.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Crossover thrash7
Black metal9
+2
Speed
Crossover thrash9
Black metal9
level
Melody
Crossover thrash5
Black metal4
−1

Crossover thrash

1984 · USA

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Hardcore punk › Crossover thrash

In short

The exact point where hardcore and thrash metal merge: metal riffs, skate-park attitude, mandatory circle pit.

How it sounds

  • Thrash metal riffing inside hardcore structures and song lengths.
  • Fast tempos with transitions into syncopated mosh parts.
  • Lyrics that are often satirical or about the scene itself.

Key acts

  • D.R.I.
  • Suicidal Tendencies
  • Municipal Waste
  • S.O.D.

Start here

The pickSuicidal Tendencies - Institutionalized. The best song ever written about parents not listening.

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Black metal

1982 · Norway / Sweden · 10 subgenres

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Black metal

In short

Tremolo picking, blast beats, shrieked vocals and deliberately cold production. More an aesthetic than a technique - atmosphere matters more than clean sound.

How it sounds

  • Tremolo picking on open fifth voicings, with vocals in the high register.
  • Deliberately thin, cold production - the missing bass is an aesthetic choice, not an accident.
  • Fast blast beats, drums often mixed back, atmosphere placed above technique.

Key acts

  • Bathory
  • Mayhem
  • Darkthrone
  • Emperor

Start here

The pickDarkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky. The production is intentional, not a flaw.

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