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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Dream pop1985

Second genre

Black metal1982

Head to headDream pop vs Black metal
Dream pop: heaviness 2, melody 10, speed 3. Black metal: heaviness 9, melody 4, speed 9.Heaviness2 / 9Melody10 / 4Speed3 / 9
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Black metal is growled or screamed where dream pop is sung cleanly, and much faster: 160 to 280 bpm against 70 to 110. To hear the difference, play Cocteau Twins next to Bathory. Dream pop comes from the rock side of the tree and black metal from the metal side, and black metal came first, by three years.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Dream pop2
Black metal9
+7
Speed
Dream pop3
Black metal9
+6
Melody
Dream pop10
Black metal4
−6

Dream pop

1985 · United Kingdom

Where it sits

Rock › Alternative rock › Shoegaze › Dream pop

In short

The same reverb haze, but with the melody left on the surface and the tempo slower.

How it sounds

  • Long reverb and delay, with guitars treated like synthesizers.
  • Slow tempos and a discreet rhythm section, often a drum machine.
  • Ethereal vocals, sometimes with no intelligible words at all.

Key acts

  • Cocteau Twins
  • Mazzy Star
  • Beach House

Start here

The pickCocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas. You won't follow the words, and it doesn't matter.

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Black metal

1982 · Norway / Sweden · 10 subgenres

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Black metal

In short

Tremolo picking, blast beats, shrieked vocals and deliberately cold production. More an aesthetic than a technique - atmosphere matters more than clean sound.

How it sounds

  • Tremolo picking on open fifth voicings, with vocals in the high register.
  • Deliberately thin, cold production - the missing bass is an aesthetic choice, not an accident.
  • Fast blast beats, drums often mixed back, atmosphere placed above technique.

Key acts

  • Bathory
  • Mayhem
  • Darkthrone
  • Emperor

Start here

The pickDarkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky. The production is intentional, not a flaw.

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