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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Grindcore1985

Second genre

Black metal1982

Head to headGrindcore vs Black metal
Grindcore: heaviness 9, melody 1, speed 10. Black metal: heaviness 9, melody 4, speed 9.Heaviness9 / 9Melody1 / 4Speed10 / 9
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Both are growled or screamed, but black metal is slower: 160 to 280 bpm against 200 to 320. Songs run longer in black metal: usually 4 to 9 minutes, against under a minute to 1½ minutes in grindcore. To hear the difference, play Napalm Death next to Bathory. Both grew out of heavy metal, black metal first and grindcore three years after.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Grindcore9
Black metal9
level
Speed
Grindcore10
Black metal9
−1
Melody
Grindcore1
Black metal4
+3

Grindcore

1985 · Birmingham, England · 3 subgenres

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Grindcore

In short

Hardcore and death metal compressed into songs under a minute, with continuous blast beats. Napalm Death have a song that lasts one second.

How it sounds

  • Blast beats at maximum speed, songs under a minute, albums of twenty minutes.
  • Short hardcore and death metal riffs with no development.
  • Dual vocals: guttural growl and high shriek, alternating rapidly.

Key acts

  • Napalm Death
  • Repulsion
  • Terrorizer
  • Brutal Truth

Start here

The pickNapalm Death - Scum. Side B, with Bill Steer on guitar, is the essential half.

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Black metal

1982 · Norway / Sweden · 10 subgenres

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Black metal

In short

Tremolo picking, blast beats, shrieked vocals and deliberately cold production. More an aesthetic than a technique - atmosphere matters more than clean sound.

How it sounds

  • Tremolo picking on open fifth voicings, with vocals in the high register.
  • Deliberately thin, cold production - the missing bass is an aesthetic choice, not an accident.
  • Fast blast beats, drums often mixed back, atmosphere placed above technique.

Key acts

  • Bathory
  • Mayhem
  • Darkthrone
  • Emperor

Start here

The pickDarkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky. The production is intentional, not a flaw.

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