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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Mathcore1993

Second genre

Black metal1982

Head to headMathcore vs Black metal
Mathcore: heaviness 8, melody 3, speed 9. Black metal: heaviness 9, melody 4, speed 9.Heaviness8 / 9Melody3 / 4Speed9 / 9
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Both are growled or screamed, but black metal is a little faster: 160 to 280 bpm against 140 to 260. Songs run longer in black metal: usually 4 to 9 minutes, against 1½ to 4 minutes in mathcore. To hear the difference, play The Dillinger Escape Plan next to Bathory. Mathcore comes from the rock side of the tree and black metal from the metal side, and black metal came first, by eleven years.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Mathcore8
Black metal9
+1
Speed
Mathcore9
Black metal9
level
Melody
Mathcore3
Black metal4
+1

Mathcore

1993 · USA

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Hardcore punk › Post-hardcore › Mathcore

In short

Metalcore with its wiring torn out: meter changes every few seconds, dissonance and chaos controlled to the millimetre.

How it sounds

  • Meter changes every few seconds, executed at maximum speed.
  • Dissonant chords and minor-second intervals used as primary material.
  • Jazz-level drum technique applied at grindcore intensity.

Key acts

  • The Dillinger Escape Plan
  • Converge
  • Botch
  • Car Bomb

Start here

The pickConverge - Jane Doe. Technically mathcore, emotionally something else entirely.

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Black metal

1982 · Norway / Sweden · 10 subgenres

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Black metal

In short

Tremolo picking, blast beats, shrieked vocals and deliberately cold production. More an aesthetic than a technique - atmosphere matters more than clean sound.

How it sounds

  • Tremolo picking on open fifth voicings, with vocals in the high register.
  • Deliberately thin, cold production - the missing bass is an aesthetic choice, not an accident.
  • Fast blast beats, drums often mixed back, atmosphere placed above technique.

Key acts

  • Bathory
  • Mayhem
  • Darkthrone
  • Emperor

Start here

The pickDarkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky. The production is intentional, not a flaw.

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