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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

No wave1978

Second genre

Black metal1982

Head to headNo wave vs Black metal
No wave: heaviness 6, melody 1, speed 5. Black metal: heaviness 9, melody 4, speed 9.Heaviness6 / 9Melody1 / 4Speed5 / 9
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Black metal is growled or screamed where no wave is shouted, and much faster: 160 to 280 bpm against 100 to 200. Songs run longer in black metal: usually 4 to 9 minutes, against 1½ to 4 minutes in no wave. To hear the difference, play Teenage Jesus and the Jerks next to Bathory. No wave comes from the rock side of the tree and black metal from the metal side, and no wave came first, by four years.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
No wave6
Black metal9
+3
Speed
No wave5
Black metal9
+4
Melody
No wave1
Black metal4
+3

No wave

1978 · New York, USA

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Post-punk › No wave

In short

A total refusal of melody and standard tuning. Short-lived, extreme and hugely influential on noise rock.

How it sounds

  • Random or modified tunings, with the guitar used as a percussion object.
  • A refusal of melody, tonal harmony and repeatable structure.
  • Screamed or spoken vocals, dissonant saxophone, primitive drumming.

Key acts

  • Teenage Jesus and the Jerks
  • DNA
  • Swans

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The pickNo New York. Four bands, sixteen tracks, one manifesto.

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Black metal

1982 · Norway / Sweden · 10 subgenres

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Black metal

In short

Tremolo picking, blast beats, shrieked vocals and deliberately cold production. More an aesthetic than a technique - atmosphere matters more than clean sound.

How it sounds

  • Tremolo picking on open fifth voicings, with vocals in the high register.
  • Deliberately thin, cold production - the missing bass is an aesthetic choice, not an accident.
  • Fast blast beats, drums often mixed back, atmosphere placed above technique.

Key acts

  • Bathory
  • Mayhem
  • Darkthrone
  • Emperor

Start here

The pickDarkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky. The production is intentional, not a flaw.

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