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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Ska punk1988

Second genre

Black metal1982

Head to headSka punk vs Black metal
Ska punk: heaviness 3, melody 9, speed 7. Black metal: heaviness 9, melody 4, speed 9.Heaviness3 / 9Melody9 / 4Speed7 / 9
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Black metal is growled or screamed where ska punk is sung cleanly, and faster: 160 to 280 bpm against 160 to 200. Songs run longer in black metal: usually 4 to 9 minutes, against 2½ to 3½ minutes in ska punk. To hear the difference, play Operation Ivy next to Bathory. Ska punk comes from the rock side of the tree and black metal from the metal side, and black metal came first, by six years.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Ska punk3
Black metal9
+6
Speed
Ska punk7
Black metal9
+2
Melody
Ska punk9
Black metal4
−5

Ska punk

1988 · California / United Kingdom

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Ska punk

In short

Ska offbeats and a horn section at punk tempo. The third wave of ska, thoroughly American.

How it sounds

  • Upstroke guitar on the offbeat in verses, distortion in choruses.
  • A horn section: trumpet, trombone, saxophone.
  • Fast tempos, melodic bass and frequently comic lyrics.

Key acts

  • Operation Ivy
  • Rancid
  • Less Than Jake
  • Reel Big Fish

Start here

The pickOperation Ivy - Energy. Twenty-seven minutes, one band, wildly outsized influence.

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Black metal

1982 · Norway / Sweden · 10 subgenres

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Black metal

In short

Tremolo picking, blast beats, shrieked vocals and deliberately cold production. More an aesthetic than a technique - atmosphere matters more than clean sound.

How it sounds

  • Tremolo picking on open fifth voicings, with vocals in the high register.
  • Deliberately thin, cold production - the missing bass is an aesthetic choice, not an accident.
  • Fast blast beats, drums often mixed back, atmosphere placed above technique.

Key acts

  • Bathory
  • Mayhem
  • Darkthrone
  • Emperor

Start here

The pickDarkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky. The production is intentional, not a flaw.

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