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Two genres, side by side. The ratings are editorial judgements on a ten-point scale, not measurements. Where they come out level, the difference is in the prose underneath them.

First genre

Youth crew / straight edge1986

Second genre

Black metal1982

Head to headYouth crew / straight edge vs Black metal
Youth crew / straight edge: heaviness 5, melody 5, speed 8. Black metal: heaviness 9, melody 4, speed 9.Heaviness5 / 9Melody5 / 4Speed8 / 9
Each corner is a ten-point rating. The further out, the higher.

The difference, by ear

Black metal is growled or screamed where youth crew / straight edge is shouted, and swings further either way: 160 to 280 bpm against 170 to 210. Songs run longer in black metal: usually 4 to 9 minutes, against 1½ to 2½ minutes in youth crew / straight edge. To hear the difference, play Youth of Today next to Bathory. Youth crew / straight edge comes from the rock side of the tree and black metal from the metal side, and black metal came first, by four years.

Put together from each genre's vocals, tempo, song length, key acts and place in the tree.

In figures

Heaviness
Youth crew / straight edge5
Black metal9
+4
Speed
Youth crew / straight edge8
Black metal9
+1
Melody
Youth crew / straight edge5
Black metal4
−1

Youth crew / straight edge

1986 · New York, USA

Where it sits

Rock › Punk rock › Hardcore punk › Youth crew / straight edge

In short

Hardcore with a code: no alcohol, no drugs, gang vocals and breakdowns. The ethics of the scene became the subject of the songs.

How it sounds

  • Gang vocals - the chorus shouted by the whole band and the audience at once.
  • A breakdown at the midpoint, with the tempo halved, made for dancing.
  • Simple riffs, with the emphasis on energy and message.

Key acts

  • Youth of Today
  • Gorilla Biscuits
  • Minor Threat

Start here

The pickGorilla Biscuits - Start Today. Optimistic hardcore, which is rarer than it sounds.

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Black metal

1982 · Norway / Sweden · 10 subgenres

Where it sits

Heavy metal › Black metal

In short

Tremolo picking, blast beats, shrieked vocals and deliberately cold production. More an aesthetic than a technique - atmosphere matters more than clean sound.

How it sounds

  • Tremolo picking on open fifth voicings, with vocals in the high register.
  • Deliberately thin, cold production - the missing bass is an aesthetic choice, not an accident.
  • Fast blast beats, drums often mixed back, atmosphere placed above technique.

Key acts

  • Bathory
  • Mayhem
  • Darkthrone
  • Emperor

Start here

The pickDarkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky. The production is intentional, not a flaw.

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