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Post-hardcore 1985
Hardcore that allows itself dynamics, empty space and irregular structures. Emo, screamo and mathcore all branch off from here.
- Heaviness
- 5
- Speed
- 6
- Melody
- 7
- Where from
- Washington DC / Chicago
- Tempo
- 120-170 bpm
- Song length
- 3-6 min
- Written about
- Complicity, Institutions, Self-examination, Language itself
- Vocals
- Sung and screamed
Why this one
| You said | Post-hardcore | Match | Weight |
|---|---|---|---|
| Both, trading off When someone is singing, what should come out? | mixed | 100% | ×3 |
| There, but not the point How much weight do you want behind it? | 5 out of 10 | 100% | ×2 |
| Quick and driving What pace? | 6 out of 10 | 90% | ×2 |
| The seventies and eighties Does it matter when it was made? | 1985 | 100% | ×1 |
| The dark What should the words be about? | Complicity, Institutions, Self-examination, Language itself | 0% | ×1 |
| Something to hold on to Do you want a tune you could hum afterwards? | 7 out of 10 | 90% | ×1 |
| Weighted mean | 87% | ||
Ranked over all 150 genres in the encyclopedia, on the 6 answers you gave, weighted vocals 3, heaviness 2, pace 2, era 1, about 1, melody 1 out of 10. Post-hardcore leads the next by 1 point. Where two genres score the same the broader one wins, because a genre with subgenres under it is somewhere to carry on from and a leaf is a full stop.
Five records, in this order
- 1Start one step outside
Bad Brains, Bad Brains 1982
Bad Brains - Bad Brains (the ROIR cassette). The fastest band of the decade.
- 2The one to put on first
Refused, The Shape of Punk to Come 1998
Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come. The title was an arrogant joke that came true.
- 3Then
- 4Then
- 5Then
The first is the entry point for Hardcore punk, one step outside, so the second record has something to be heard against. After it come Post-hardcore's essential records in the order the encyclopedia lists them. Every one of these has a page here with links out to somewhere it can be played.
If that is not it
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Alternative metal 86%
Metal weight without the dress code or the scene rules: unconventional structures and influences from post-punk, funk or shoegaze.
On the other branch of the tree entirely, and 6 steps from Post-hardcore.
The way into Alternative metal -
Industrial rock 86%
Guitars over programmed drums, sampling and factory noise. The bridge to industrial metal.
4 steps from Post-hardcore, meeting it only at Punk rock.
The way into Industrial rock
Not simply the second and third of the ranking: those are almost always near neighbours of the first, which is three names for one suggestion. An alternate has to sit at least 4 steps through the tree from the headline and from the other alternate, which is the same floor the "sounds like this, but isn't" panel uses.
What your answers ruled out
- Both, trading off put 72 genres at the bottom of that one question, among them Alternative rock, Blues rock, Doom metal. Worth 3 of 10.
- The seventies and eighties put 4 genres at the bottom of that one question, among them Kawaii metal, New nu metal, Progressive metalcore. Worth 1 of 10.
- The dark put 119 genres at the bottom of that one question, among them Punk rock, Hardcore punk, Alternative rock. Worth 1 of 10.
Counted as genres scoring 20% or less on that answer alone. A recommendation that only shows what it chose is hiding half of what it did.